Podcasts – Voice of EHDEN – Ethics, Legal & Social Implications

The Voice of EHDEN podcast is pleased to publish a new limited series on ethical, legal and social implications (ELSI) of working with health data for research. In this limited series into 2023, with expert colleagues, we will discuss the sociotechnical construct related to not only focusing on data, tools methods and skills of conducting at scale studies, but also protecting patients and citizens related to data generated on us and about us, and increasingly by us. Perceived risks, potential harms need also to be balanced with the challenge that everyday patients and citizens are harmed by the lack of evidence generation to respond to medical needs and improve outcomes. Within this ethical dilemma, we will converse in the podcast and explore the issues and possible solutions.

Voice of EHDEN - Ethical, Legal & Social Implications Episode #2: Exploring the concept of trust and health data with Dr Mackenzie Graham

The Voice of EHDEN podcast is pleased to continue our occasional ELSI series, and this is the first episode of season 4, focusing on the concept of 'trust' within the context of health and health research, and in particular real world data. In this episode we are joined by Dr Mackenzie Graham, Senior Research Fellow in Data Ethics, Wellcome Centre for Ethics and Humanities, University of Oxford. Mackenzie has a facinating background in neuroscience, data and data ethics, and also collaborates with Dr Mark Sheehan and Dr Richard Milne, our participants in the first episode of our ELSI series.

In the discussion, we explore what is meant by, 'trust', and also trustworthiness, and reliance on appropriate governance systems to support individuals and patients being confident in who and how they can trust. Within this we investigate underlying concepts that result in trust, what it is and what it takes for trust and trustworthiness, such as motives and prior experience, very much within a motivation-based model.

Beyond this, we focus in on aspects of data use, the role of Tech Titans and trade offs we all make in society around the use of our personal data, through to sociotechnical architectures, e.g., Trusted Research Environments (TREs), federated data networks, like EHDEN, DARWIN EU(R) and the European Health Data Space (EHDS). From this the attributes, roles and actor's responsibilities are articulated, and a delineation of both passive and active activity around trust. Finally, we land on the counter factual concept of 'distrust' and the need to explore this further, especially in the context of health and health data use for research.

Specifically the role of TREs is explored in terms of trust, and Mackenzie and colleagues recently published in the Journal of Medical Ethics on, 'Trust and the Goldacre Review: why trusted research environments are not about trust', available here, and speaking to a number of aspects discussed in this episode.

The views expressed by the participants are personal and not necessarily reflective of their organisations.

Listen to the episode here or via your preferred podcast app.

Voice of EHDEN - Ethics, Legal & Social Implications Episode #1: The Concentric Circles Framework and working with health data through federated data networks

The Voice of EHDEN podcast is pleased to publish a new limited series on ethical, legal and social implications (ELSI) of working with health data for research, and this first episode with Dr Richard Milne, social scientist, Wellcome Connecting Science and the Kavli Centre for Ethics, Science and the Public, and Dr Mark Sheehan, philosopher, Oxford Biomedical Research Centre Ethics Fellow, both in the UK.

In our discussion, both Richard and Mark outline the work of the EHDEN Ethics Advisory Board/ELSI Group, and in particular publication of the development of a conceptual framework to assist the research community in understanding how to balance protections with value of the data for research. In a person-centric model, the Concentric Circles View (CCV), provides a structure where the researcher's relative position to the patient or subject, in a concentric circle, illustrates the extent of duty of care required.

The closer a researcher is to the subject in the model, the greater granularity and need for protection of the subject (compliance with law, privacy and confidentiality), whereas the further out, the data is often less granular, with less protections. It may be in the future that metadata will contain such relevant information to aid a researcher in understanding both the constraints on the use of health data, and their responsibilities in using it.

The EHDEN EAB/ELSI Group are looking further to explore the application of the CCV, especially in federated data networks like EHDEN, which are designed to address some of the challenges outlined in the CCV. The publication, in Frontiers of Big Data, can be found here, to accompany listening to this episode. A lay, non-expert version will also be produced in due course.

The views expressed by the participants are personal and not necessarily reflective of their organisations.

Listen to the episode here or via your preferred podcast app.